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patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of those kind of zingers are prethought out and what does mitt romney have to do to avoid taking a big hit tomorrow night? >> well, that was all newt and part of the great thing about newt is that he knew the topic, you knew the weak points, but he was prepared to answer the question and then if you can come up with pious baloney, then that just puts a cherry on top. interestingly enough, if you googled baloney two hours after that debate you would get oscar mayer and newt gingrich. romney has the same opportunity, especially when it comes to obama's populoous message, i'm one of the common guys and you're out o
patrick, you say newt gingrich's famous pious baloney line was one of his strongest hits against mitt romney during the primary debates. i want to play that for our viewers who don't remember. take a look. >> can we drop a little bit of the pious baloney? the fact is you ran in '94 and lost. that's why you -- this idea that suddenly citizenship showed up in your mind, just level with the american people. you've been running for at least since the 1990s. >> i'm curious how much of...
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take a look at this little change with newt gingrich in florida in january. >> speaker gingrich was hired by freddie mac to promote them, to influence other people throughout washington, encouraging them not to dismantle these two entities. i think that was an enormous mistake. >> so he did it with a nice tone, said newt gingrich made an enormous mistake. i think that was a good way of romney pointing out the differences. what he does, though, is when he's in moment when there's a really candid exchange and he's not sure what to say, he can really look awkward. remember this? i bet you do. >> you were for individual mandate, my friend. >> you know what, you've raised that before, rick. and you're wrong -- >> it was true then, true now. >> rick, i'll tell you what, 10,000 bucks? $10,000 bet? >> that became a real problem for mitt romney because it only fed into the narrative that he doesn't care about your problems, he's rich and out of touch. if you bet $10,000, not such a good idea. >> that was a little awkward. >> it was a bad moment for him. and that happens to him when he's challenged
take a look at this little change with newt gingrich in florida in january. >> speaker gingrich was hired by freddie mac to promote them, to influence other people throughout washington, encouraging them not to dismantle these two entities. i think that was an enormous mistake. >> so he did it with a nice tone, said newt gingrich made an enormous mistake. i think that was a good way of romney pointing out the differences. what he does, though, is when he's in moment when there's a...
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if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you spoke to the republican strategist brad o'donnell, one of romney's primary debate here. he spent a lot of time with him during the primaries. how much does the romney think that those 20 or so debates in the primaries is going to help him win tonight? >> well, of course, any debate that any candidate has they think will help, but, you know, this is a very, very different ballgame. first of all, mitt romney was standing next to about half a dozen people at any given moment. this is mano-y-mano with the president of the united states. also, the tens of millions of viewers will be watching. it is a very diff
if you are going to milwaukee the charge, make it on the stage, and that really put gingrich in his place. you know, that's happened through -- that happened throughout the primary debates. when pawlenty wouldn't -- if a candidate is not willing to say the same thing on stage face-to-face that they'll say in an interview, we view them as weak. that moment was a moment of strength for governor romney. >> dana bash is joining us life. dana, that was really fascinating. interesting that you...
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he can be very good as he was against gingrich in florida. >> okay. maria, let's pretend you're a republican strategist. so barack obama supposedly every third question is going to mention this 47% thing. so what would be a good way to combat that for mitt romney? >> well, i think that what he has started to do is something that he should continue to do, which is talk about the 100%. he should not get into trying to explain the 47% because that's just going to be a loser for him. the problem, though, and, again, what i mentioned earlier that there is this narrative and this image of mitt romney that has already cemented in voters' minds. and frankly the 47% comment why it was so damaging is because that wasn't a surrogate, that wasn't a democratic strategist or the obama campaign saying that about mitt romney, that was mitt romney saying that about mitt romney. so he should try to focus as much and pivot to talk about the 100% and be specific. because that is what has been missing from what his plans are versus what the president's are for the middle
he can be very good as he was against gingrich in florida. >> okay. maria, let's pretend you're a republican strategist. so barack obama supposedly every third question is going to mention this 47% thing. so what would be a good way to combat that for mitt romney? >> well, i think that what he has started to do is something that he should continue to do, which is talk about the 100%. he should not get into trying to explain the 47% because that's just going to be a loser for him....
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>> because it took gingrich's argument and showed the absurdity in one line. >> cnn is told there is a ritual to romney's debate prep. after each session, his inner circle, beth myers, stewart stevens and ed gles pe, spend hours going over his answers with him so see how how can improve. >> you have to figure out how they're likely to expres themselves with the body language is going to be like. >> portman learned that in 2000. >> he got kind of physical. sort of stood up, al gore got right in his face and so in the debate preps with governor george w. bush in 2000, i did that. and governor bush's reaction was of course, he's not going to do that. that's ridiculous. >> but can he get things done? >> that's exactly what gore did. >> and i believe i can. >> did he practice a nod or did you just -- warn him he was going to physically approach him. >> i think the point is that governor bush was ready for it and that was not a high point for vice president gore. >> that's fascinating, that they knew gore was going to try to sort of physically approach him. >> that's right. as senator port
>> because it took gingrich's argument and showed the absurdity in one line. >> cnn is told there is a ritual to romney's debate prep. after each session, his inner circle, beth myers, stewart stevens and ed gles pe, spend hours going over his answers with him so see how how can improve. >> you have to figure out how they're likely to expres themselves with the body language is going to be like. >> portman learned that in 2000. >> he got kind of physical. sort of...
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it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls into what the romney campaign considers to be its playbook at this point, keep it close, keep it tight, get through the debates, and look once again to the onomy as the determining factor in this election. >> you know, jim, we heard from kevin madden, the romney campaign adviser on getting romney ready for this debate tomorrow, here's what he said. >> just trying to get the governor familiar with the head to head one on one format has been a focus because in all the previous debates that we have had, it has been, you know, nine people on stage, trying to -- trying
it was a clear takedown he had of newt gingrich during that debate. and mitt romney has shown, his back is against the wall, he can perform well in the debates. he did that in california with rick perry, did that on a number of occasions with rick perry and was able to put the challengers aside. and, you know if you saw the latest cnn orc poll that came out yesterday showing that the president is just now three points ahead of mitt romney, this race is getting tighter, and i think that falls...
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>>> plus, newt gingrich, newt gingrich says mitt romney has a messaging failure as new polls have even more bad news for the republican candidate. can the romney camp turn things around? >>> the big break in one of the biggest mysteries of all time. this time, police may actually know where jimmy hoffa's body is. you're watching starts point. ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. biggest mysteries of all time. [ male announcer if you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air. at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. >>> the big break in one of the n u to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. in fact, by thinking about where you want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might fi
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i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political parties are very enthusiastic. this is about appealing to those undecided moderates and independents and nasty is not cool. >> let's talk about -- let's talk about appealing to latino voters. there's a new poll out today. back in 2008 mccain had 31% of latino vote. that was not as good as george w. bush in 2004 he had 44% of latino vote. romney need at least a quarter to a third of latino vote toeshs competitive in states like colorado where the debate is and that kind of thing. real quickly because i want to get to donna on this issue. what does he need to do to appeal to latino voters? >> i think latino voters n
i saw him do best, probably his two best debates, suzanne were the florida debates with when newt gingrich had beat him lining a pulp in the south carolina debates a few weeks before. so i think that could actually be an advantage for mitt romney. he seems to be good under pressure. but, you know, listen, both these guys have a lot of strengths and some weaknesses. the question is -- >> let's talk specific. >> the nastiness is time out for that. we know the base of both political...
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listen to newt gingrich because he had some advice. let me play the clip. >> if he would be as direct, as assertive, as firm with barack obama as he was with me in florida, he'll win the debate going away. and within three days of winning that debate the polls will change dramatically because he'll have begun to make the case that we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. >> he's got some experience. mitt romney beat him so he knows what he's talking about. >> he got creamed in the debates. >> you don't think his advice is any good? >> gingrich trying to be the party soldier for mitt romney. the polls are not going to dramatically change ter the debate. we play a roll here. we in the media build things up do or die. and certainly with 40 days to go these are crucial opportunities for mitt romney. but most of them tend to be a muddle. each side makes its points, we all analize it. they are not the dramatic game changers that either side might hope for. >> i'll disagree with you because i think when it comes to that 5 or 6 or 7%
listen to newt gingrich because he had some advice. let me play the clip. >> if he would be as direct, as assertive, as firm with barack obama as he was with me in florida, he'll win the debate going away. and within three days of winning that debate the polls will change dramatically because he'll have begun to make the case that we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. >> he's got some experience. mitt romney beat him so he knows what he's talking about. >> he got...
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watching what it was one deadline past and another deadline, congressman akin staying in, we saw newt gingrich helping to campaign with him. might we see any outside money headed into the todd akin campaign? >> well, from the perspective of the national republican party, they're hedging their bets. they'll wait and see if it is close. sources i've talked to said they don't think it will be, but they're going to not close the door. but with regard to outside groups, one of the biggest ones, crossroads, karl rove's group, they insist they will not spend money there but there are other outside groups. one was backed by senator jim demint. they did a poll of their supporters online, and they all said that they believe that they should back todd akin and i think we have a shot of the website. so far they have raised $138,000 in a week online. so, you know, that's not going to win the race for todd akin, but it is more money than he had before and we'll see how much money they raise in the next month. >> that is missouri. let's talk maine. you and i have talked about senator olympia snowe, on this s
watching what it was one deadline past and another deadline, congressman akin staying in, we saw newt gingrich helping to campaign with him. might we see any outside money headed into the todd akin campaign? >> well, from the perspective of the national republican party, they're hedging their bets. they'll wait and see if it is close. sources i've talked to said they don't think it will be, but they're going to not close the door. but with regard to outside groups, one of the biggest...
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but he can still have support from some high-profile conservatives like newt gingrich who this week chastised the gop establhment for aandoning akin. >> if saying something dumb would disqualify you, joe biden wouldn't be vice president. >> reporter: national gop strategists say mccaskill who sees akin as beatable has intentionally withheld her attacks on akin until the deadline passes to drop out. she's limiting to touting her own moderate credentials. republican strategists who've written off missouri admit it has put gop chances for seizing the senate majority at major risk. take a look at the math to help explain why. republicans currently hold 47 out of 100 senate seats. to win outright control of the senate, republicans must pick up four seats that are currently held by democrats assuming they lose no seats currently held by republicans. now to the map. the most likely place for a gop win is the open democratic seat in nebraska. other states in the tossup column republican strategists say they're hoping to snatch, north dakota, wisconsin, montana, connecticut, virginia and ohio. what ma
but he can still have support from some high-profile conservatives like newt gingrich who this week chastised the gop establhment for aandoning akin. >> if saying something dumb would disqualify you, joe biden wouldn't be vice president. >> reporter: national gop strategists say mccaskill who sees akin as beatable has intentionally withheld her attacks on akin until the deadline passes to drop out. she's limiting to touting her own moderate credentials. republican strategists who've...
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this is newt gingrich. >> i think it depends almost entirely on mitt personally. i debated him and most of them i did pretty well. the last two down to life and death and we were in florida and he was in danger of losing the nomination, he came in fired up decisive prepared, aggressive, energetic and to be honest i think he beat me both times. if he would be as direct as assertive, as firm with barack obama as he was with me in florida he'll win the debate going away and within three days the polls will change dramatically because he'll ha the case we cannot afford four more years of barack obama. >> so that first debate is next wednesday in denver and did you know that early voting has for the first time today voting in a swing state, iowa. guess who's there john king. iowa city, iowa. john, are you seeing many early voters where you are? >> reporter: we have seen quite a few of them brooke. we had a camera here in iowa city and des moines earlier today. i wouldn't say it's gangbusters but modest lineseople saying pretty good loins and if you look at the stickers
this is newt gingrich. >> i think it depends almost entirely on mitt personally. i debated him and most of them i did pretty well. the last two down to life and death and we were in florida and he was in danger of losing the nomination, he came in fired up decisive prepared, aggressive, energetic and to be honest i think he beat me both times. if he would be as direct as assertive, as firm with barack obama as he was with me in florida he'll win the debate going away and within three days...
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i want to set up how you feel about the debates with a quick sound from newt gingrich and how he views the importance of these debates. >> it has to be campaign of contrast, not attack. >> right. >> require the contrast has to be disarming the president because if the president is believable -- this is where clinton was so good. if the president is believable at the end of the first debate, there's a very high likelihood is he going to get re-elected. >> whoa. not just the debate, but the first debate. do you agree? >> sure. i think the first debate is critical because this is their first chance -- our first chance to see the two gladiators in their arena alone, so how they -- who is the alpha dog in this debate? that's what we want to see. if you can't beat the other guy, how can you lead the country? >> you think mitt romney could lose it in this first debate, do you agree? >> i think that the debates are really tough for the incumbent. i think there's a big study done by the -- no, they show the challengers win the debates because it's the first time -- >> john mccain -- >> they had
i want to set up how you feel about the debates with a quick sound from newt gingrich and how he views the importance of these debates. >> it has to be campaign of contrast, not attack. >> right. >> require the contrast has to be disarming the president because if the president is believable -- this is where clinton was so good. if the president is believable at the end of the first debate, there's a very high likelihood is he going to get re-elected. >> whoa. not just...
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that line he was able to successfully deliver disarmed newt gingrich over the issue of taxes and releasing taxes and transparency. that's what governor romney is, i'm sure, working on tonight. and the president as well. finding a moment where they can crystallize the debate into one line and capture the imagination of the press and the audience. >> brett o'donnell, alleges nwa to talk to you. we'll talk on the other side of the debate. appreciate your time. >> you're going to be doing fact-checking at the debate. >> a rapid response fact check on both candidates what they say, we'll check it. if the campaign is any indication, it wille quite busy. >> i bet you will be. >> more than the stump speech stuff. we've heard so much about the economy in the stump speech. where there be real moments? if you're practicing, practicing, what are the real moments we'll get to see? >> you just had brett o'donnell, what's fascinating he was a key player in preparing mitt romney in a couple of debates where he did very, very well in the primary, maybe saved his candidacy -- >> south carolina was a disaste
that line he was able to successfully deliver disarmed newt gingrich over the issue of taxes and releasing taxes and transparency. that's what governor romney is, i'm sure, working on tonight. and the president as well. finding a moment where they can crystallize the debate into one line and capture the imagination of the press and the audience. >> brett o'donnell, alleges nwa to talk to you. we'll talk on the other side of the debate. appreciate your time. >> you're going to be...
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>> we heard what newt gingrich said, that governor romney should talk more about fracking and about what's really helping the economy in ohio. do you believe that mr. romney should talk more about those things? >> absolutely. because people have a misconception about fracking. in our area like we have six wells on our farm, water wells. everybody worries about their water. ours ranged from 135 to 175 feet deep. the deepest one i know in the area is 300. the fracking goes on over a mile down. and i'm not an expert on the oil business, but i can't believe something that's going on a mile down is going to affect us above. the second thing is all the chemicals that they worry about are generally household products that everybody has in their kitchen. they mix that with sand to hold the shale apart and that's all there is to it. it's not anything dangerous that i'm aware of. >> all right. jim long, thank you so much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> years after his presumed death, jimmy hoffa's legacy lives on. how the latest tip has sparked new interest in his my
>> we heard what newt gingrich said, that governor romney should talk more about fracking and about what's really helping the economy in ohio. do you believe that mr. romney should talk more about those things? >> absolutely. because people have a misconception about fracking. in our area like we have six wells on our farm, water wells. everybody worries about their water. ours ranged from 135 to 175 feet deep. the deepest one i know in the area is 300. the fracking goes on over a...
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and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not speaking. if they're saying ugly things about you, yoube smiling. it is an awkward smirk. >> you have the president, here is an example, we have an example of him raising his hands, pointing his finger, while his opponent answered a question, wait for it, and you'll see, the president do this, good or bad move? >> i don't think it is a particularly good move. i've always been told to kind of, you know, keep that finger down. you don't know what's going to happen once you start pointing to somebody. it could go off. i think you keep the finger pointing away. >> bottom line, who wins? >> i think it will
and he in fact ended up losing that primary to newt gingrich. you just can't do that in debates. they were stumbles he doesn't normally have. and i would expect him to have corrected those. >> and then it is not just the words, but it is the body language. and you have written in your op-ed piece that romney sometimes has an -- if you watch, he has a bit of an awkward smile when his opponent is talking, right? >> he does. you have to remember the camera is on you even if you're not...